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How Do You Describe 'Integral Truth'

Lori Tompkins | 06.23.07 | 02:29 PM |
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The title question and the following response is from a Discussion Thread on Integral Naked Forums:

I ... am not much impressed by the process or effectiveness of combining various theories and practices and trying to use that material as a basis for a better [i.e. Integral] view of the whole.

I have been a bit skeptical and critical of the proliferation of the word 'Integral' in the present-day spiritual arena. Whereas developing an Integral consciousness is certainly a good intention, ideal, ethical approach and philosophy, I don't think that most Integral approaches (including Ken Wilber's) have a true idea of what the word 'Integral' means in terms of really understanding the Earth and the evolution of consciousness in material creation. In my view, an 'Integral' perspective, if it is to really live up to the essence of that word, must encompass the Earth's actual patterns of growth, geography, cycles of time, historical movements, mythologies and such.

In 'The Human Cycle', Sri Aurobindo (1872-1950) - a forefather of all things INTEGRAL - writes about the typical mental use of words as a spinning of fiction, as opposed to the words used by Vedic Seers some 5,000 years ago. Sri Aurobindo understood that a true Seer’s words are connected to their living ROOT (sol/source) and that the connection to and understanding of the hidden realities of creation are not yet filtered out (that is until a lesser Mental perception gets a hold of the words).

'To us poetry is a revel of intellect and fancy, imagination a plaything and caterer for our amusement, our entertainer, the nautch-girl of the mind. But to men of old the poet was a seer, a revealer of hidden truths, imagination no dancing courtesan but a priestess in God's house commissioned not to spin fictions but to image difficult and hidden truths; even the metaphor or simile in the Vedic style is used with a serious purpose and expected to convey a reality, not to suggest a pleasing artifice of thought. The image was to these seers a revelative symbol of the unrevealed and it was used because it could hint luminously to the mind what the precise intellectual word, apt only for logical or practical thought or to express the physical and the superficial, could not at all hope to manifest.' p. 8

Sri Aurobindo describes that a 'curve of degeneration' brings civilization from the Living use of Symbols to what he calls a Typal stage and then into a Conventional stage that may still use some of the symbols and rituals but the real sense is gone and words, symbols, images, rituals religions used for upholding ethical and psychological 'motive and discipline'.

My thoughts are that the word Integral in our modern hands is far from a direct expression of what Integral IS. It seems to me that we are commonly using the word to describe a attractive and honorable theory of life, but that it is removed from the roots and realities of the living Earth and the Cosmos which must be at the heart of an Integral perspective.

To read more of this post (which includes a quote from Sri Aurobindo's 'The Secret of the Veda')link here: http://multiplex.integralinstitute.org/Public/cs/forums/24810/ShowThread.aspx#24810

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Submitted by Dick Dalton on July 11, 2007 - 7:51am.

Thanks Lori,
I have been a part of Satchidananda's Integral Yoga Institute, attended a Don Beck Spiral Dynamics - Integral seminar, and listened a bit to a Ken Wilbur interview, but did not have the beautiful expression of Sri Aurobindo's wisdom. Thanks again.

Dick Dalton
If it is to be, it is up to US!

Submitted by Bob Johnston on June 25, 2007 - 8:48am.

Hi Lori ~

The only ultimate "integral truth" I know is that any ultimate integral truth emanating from our Source is a mystery. Your hypothesis is as good as mine.

The sole personal integral truth I know is that as of this moment I am conscious, healthy and fully functioning.

So, I remain content to formulate 'working hypotheses' about integral consciousness, integral health and full functioning and test those hypotheses for evidence of validity and reliability daily in the laboratory of my life.

My 'General Integral Working Hypothesis' reads like this:

If one perceives temporal events from her or his freest inner place of transparent, centered, balanced, timeless awareness, every perception is an interdependent option, every interpretation of every perception is an interdependent option, and every response to every interpretation is an interdependent option with caveats and consequences for more or less good or ill.

Each consequence may be more or less controllable, only influenceable, or, if too large, swift, and strong, completely uncontrollable relative to realizing mutual empathy, understanding, health, wisdom, and full functioning in communicating with other earthly beings.

Note: My general integral working hypothesis is subject to change pending new scientific evidence and/or intuitive insights reality-tested in the laboratory of my everyday life.

The bottom-line test question for my integral working hypotheses is: Are the results measureable relative to my personal integral mind-body health and am I helping facilitate social and ecosystemic health and full functioning on a continuing basis?

An example of receiving specific objective feedback on one facet of my integral healthful lifestyle is my annual health appraisal conducted by my physician. For the last ten years I've received a clean bill of health complete with lipids lab test results to help confirm it. In case you're interested, as of 6/22/07 here they are:

Total cholesterol 165 mg/dl (240 and below considered healthy)

HDL (good) cholesterol 52 mg/dl (40 and up for males considered healthy)

LDL (bad) cholesterol 99 mg/dl (desirable level 130 and below is healthy)

Triglycerides 69 mg/dl (30-160 considered healthy)

Triglycerides to HDL cholesterol ratio 1.33 mg/dl (2.0 or below is healthy by Zone standard)

Resting pulse: 84

Blood pressure: 122/80

As you can see all are in healthy ranges (also confirms I am not likely to soon need Viagra or Cialis :-).

If you are interested in knowing more about my integral healthful aging checklist see http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/3130.

So there you have it, Lori, a brief introduction to how I use the term 'integral' in my work in a way meaningful to me. Hope it helps answer your question.

Yours with empathy and trust integral natural science and our (presumably integral) timeless aware, omnipresent mysterious Source.

Bob

Submitted by Jeffery DeCelles on June 24, 2007 - 2:49pm.

Fruitful topic, Lori.
Discerning "Truth", Integral or otherwise, is no trivial matter.I just Wiki'ed "Truth" and got a head full. The philosophical disciplines of Epistemology: how we Know, and Ontology: what exists to be Known, are broad and deep. What leaped out is Wittgenstein's admonition that we go with what is "true enough", a subjective approximation suitable for our current situation.
Implicit in "true enough" is framing such insights in an accessible language for the times, if the message is to be disseminated widely, as Integral models seem to be.
On this basis I find Wilberian Integral thought "true enough" to open dialogs and map strategic options for today's challenges. In listening to Ken on his audio "Kosmic Consciousness", I noted his acknowledgment of its incompleteness and openness to modification based on new data.
Regarding your intuition that an Integral perspective "must encompass the Earth's actual patterns...", I agree, and note that modern technical understanding of such details is unprecedented in its scope.
Likewise unprecedented is the social breadth of this understanding: never before have so many been intellectually aware of so much; who has not seen the iconic image of the Earth from space, the "Blue Marble", spinning in the Void?
What is no doubt lacking, to our collective peril, is a trans-rational, emotive, wholistic engagement with this sweet little planet and our dear selves within it.
Here the Vedic insights come home, for, I'm sure you are aware, Vedic culture was profoundly influenced by ritual use of a sacred substance called Soma, apparently psychedelic, though its exact nature has been lost in time. Here, I propose, is the connection to the living ROOT described by Aurobindo.
The progressive slide into cultural decadence alluded to by Aurobindo may be the inescapable consequence of losing or abandoning the ritual de-conditioning from cultural norms which sanctioned psychedelic ceremony engenders. Ecstatic immersion in ego-dissolving unitive states providing "connection to and understanding of the hidden realities of creation" is what has been lost, and must be regained.
The current prohibitions on sacramental use of such plants, and consequently the states of awareness thus engendered, I see as an Inquisitorial effort at sustaining cultural structures like rational materialism and egoic individuality which form the crux of our cultural pathology. It is these habits of thought and perception which hinder the Gnosis of Living Mystery, that gestalt awareness of our collective unity you aptly identify as lacking.
Therefore, I humbly submit, for mature consideration, the notion that a more comprehensive Integral approach is one which somehow incorporates "altered states into permanent traits", via plants, or electronic modalities, or whatever means available, and dissolves culturally mediated cognition, that Apollonian Solar Mind, allowing the Mystery, dark, chaotic, wholistic, to re-emerge and re-vivify the human spirit.

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