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Life Between Lives

Bob Johnston | 09.05.07 | 07:41 AM |
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Thank you Angela and Marie for your blogs on soul and life after life.

This is a topic which excites me more than any other (and there are many that excite me). Recently my excitement was heightened by the bodily death of one of our community group members. Erma Lee Rouse had passed on just hours earlier when I became aware of her presence. She called out in her initimitable voice, "Hey Bob it's just like our New Options Community Group over here!" And then she was gone. Had this been my first experience of this kind I probably would have been stunned but it was just the most recent of a long string of such occurences.

I was raised in a devout religious community that believed in the existence of a soul within each of us which survived bodily death. Reincarnation, however, was something most refused to consider as credible. Later I left organized religion to develop my own concept of an integral natural science system which investigated science-based orientations to the existence of souls and reincarnation among other interests such as cocreative self-management, cocreative leadership and organization development.

I found psychoanalyst Carl Jung's views on the existence of the psyche (soul, mind, consciousness) as most useful. The upshot of my study of his work combined with Michael Newton's (2004), which I briefly describe below, is that the soul itself cannot be fully described except as some sort of psychic energy, possibly kinetic. However, various functions of the soul can be identified as autopoietic (cocreative self-managing), focusing, feeling-emotive, thinking, sensing, parasensing-intuiting, and remembering (Johnston 1979; 2003).

As to reincarnation and the existence of souls, the late University of Virginia psychiatrist and scientist Ian Stevenson's (1974) findings about the reincarnation experiences of children in India, Lebanon and the U.S. are to me the most valid and reliable to date. More recently, board-certified child psychiatrist Jim Tucker,MD (2005) published an overview of more than 40 years of research at the University of Virginia Division of Personality Studies. Dr. Tucker was a colleague of Dr. Stevenson and took over his research at the university.

Beginning as an atheistic traditional licensed hypnotherapist Michael Newton, PhD (2004) serendipitously discovered some of his patients were reporting experiences of not only other incarnations but also what their transtemporal life between temporal lives were like. Curious, he skeptically investigated the phenomena further. What first was a professional curiosity became an obsession involving painstaking study of life between lives reports of approximately 7,000 patients during hypnotherapeutic regression, respectively, conducted by Newton over a thirty year period. Following is an overview of the empirical results of his studies of his life between lives soul regressions.

1. The soul cannot be defined because it has no limits that are perceived about its creation. The most consistent reports of its demonstrated essence is that the soul represents intelligent energy which is immortal and manifested by vibrational waves of light and color.

2. All human beings have one soul that remains attached to its chosen physical body until death. Souls play a part in the selection of their next physical body during their reincarnation cycles. The soul typically joins its physical body after conception between the fourth month and birth.

3. Each soul has a unique immortal character. When joined with the human brain this character is melded with the emotional temperament, or human ego, of that brain to produce one personality for one lifetime.

4. Souls reincarnate with human beings for countless lifetimes to advance through levels of development by addressing karmic tasks from former lifetimes. Souls grow in knowledge and wisdom through this learning process while pondering their thoughts and deeds in past lives with peers under the direction of teachers.

5. At the moment of physical death the soul returns to the spirit world, the source of its creation. Since part of a soul’s energy essence has never left the spirit world during incarnation, the returning soul rejoins with that essence of itself. This, spiritual learning never ceases for the soul. The spirit world also offers souls the opportunity for rest and reflection between lives.

6. Souls appear to be members of specific spirit cluster groups to whom they have been assigned since their creation. The teachers of each group are the personal spirit guides of members of that group. Members of these groups reincarnate with the soul and assume meaningful roles during a soul’s life on earth.

7. Rather than being defined as a place of ultimate non-action, or Nirvana, the spirit world appears to be a space of soul transition into higher forms of energy with capabilities for creation with advancement. Their spirit world has an area of influence which is undefined except that it includes our universe and nearby dimensions.

8. No earthly religious deities are seen in the spirit world by returning souls. A soul’s closest connection with the divine is with their personal spirit guide and members of a council of benevolent counselors who monitor the affairs of each soul. Souls from earth feel and sense the presence of a God-like Oversoul or Source emanating from above their counselors. The spirit world is composed of highly advanced non-reincarnating soul specialists who regulate the work of advancement for the souls in their care.

9. When incarnating souls develop to a high level of experience, performance and wisdom they will cease to incarnate and become advanced beings themselves who assist the still-incarnating souls.

10.The ultimate goal of all souls appears to be the desire to seek perfection and conjoin with the Source that created them.

REFERENCES

Jung, Carl G. (1968). Psychology and Alchemy, Bollingen Series XX. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University

Johnston, Robert Wayne (1979), Integrated Management Process Workbook -- Identifying With the Changeless to Better Respond to the Changing. Los Angeles: Western Gear Corporation Publication

Johnston, Robert Wayne (2003). Cocreatively Self-Managing From One's Inner 'Seat' of Timeless Awareness. Workshop presented to the Institute of Noetic Sciences Annual Conference. Palm Springs, CA.

Newton, Michael (2004). The Journey of Souls, St Paul, MN: Llewellyn Publications.

Newton, Michael (2004). The Destiny of Souls. St Paul, MN: Llewellyn Publications.

Stevenson, Ian (1974). Twenty cases suggestive of reincarnation, second (revised and enlarged) edition, University of Virginia Press.

Tucker, Jim B. (2005). Life Before Life: A scientific Investigation of Children's Memories of Previous Lives. NewYork:St. Martin's Press


Member Comments:

Submitted by Lawrence Carson on September 6, 2007 - 7:38pm.

Bob ... help me out here. My wife asks me if "I am out of my mind" and I am attempting to maintain as much clarity as I can ... at least when she's looking.

I quote from above:
5. At the moment of physical death the soul returns to the spirit world, the source of its creation. Since part of a soul’s energy essence has never left the spirit world during incarnation, the returning soul rejoins with that essence of itself. This, spiritual learning never ceases for the soul. The spirit world also offers souls the opportunity for rest and reflection between lives.

6. Souls appear to be members of specific spirit cluster groups to whom they have been assigned since their creation. The teachers of each group are the personal spirit guides of members of that group. Members of these groups reincarnate with the soul and assume meaningful roles during a soul’s life on earth.

7. Rather than being defined as a place of ultimate non-action, or Nirvana, the spirit world appears to be a space of soul transition into higher forms of energy with capabilities for creation with advancement. Their spirit world has an area of influence which is undefined except that it includes our universe and nearby dimensions.

8. No earthly religious deities are seen in the spirit world by returning souls. A soul’s closest connection with the divine is with their personal spirit guide and members of a council of benevolent counselors who monitor the affairs of each soul. Souls from earth feel and sense the presence of a God-like Oversoul or Source emanating from above their counselors. The spirit world is composed of highly advanced non-...".

Now here is the question one more time. Last time I asked ... I did not sense you really understood the significance or weight of my question. To me this is of paramount importance. Really!

Please read what you wrote ... but this time notice how you use the word soul vs spirit. Notice the implied Context when you use soul vs spirit. You obviously are not intuitively using those words synonymously. And neither do others when I listen to them. But when I ask everyone believes they mean the same.

Please take your time ... go deep inside ... and in a few days or so when something shows up ... would you be so kind as to post your new belief offering for our discussion. And this answer must not be "they are the same". :-)

Thanks
Lawrence of Supai

Submitted by Bob Johnston on September 7, 2007 - 6:55am.

Wow, Lawrence, you have a great way of pressing me to the wall. I empathize with your concern and will try to give you at least an overview of my frame of reference which I hope will help us come up with mutually satisfactory 'working definitions' of soul and spirit, respectively.

First, however, I request you go to a reference I find unreliable on some subjects but I believe will give you a reasonably accurate background summary of the entomology of both terms -- spirit and soul. Once you have become perhaps even more confused ;-) by the semantic ambiguities involved than you are now let me know and I'll try again to sift through all that to explain my 'working hypotheses' underlying my 'working use' use of the two terms.

Are you with me? If so, 'Google' Wikipedia and once you get to the site type "Spirit" in the Search box and Go from there. Once you have read the section on Spirit, type Soul in the Search box and Go. Warning: It may well 'blow' your mind even further (and your longsuffering wife's also). Remember: A 'blown mind' is the first requisite for expanding consciousness of that same mind :-)

I'm looking forward to contining this discussion whenever you're ready.

Happy reading,

Bob

Submitted by Jane Adams on September 5, 2007 - 10:32am.

Hi Bob ~

Jane Adams here. You may remember that I am the one
that posted the piece about the Little Quantum Miracle
Plant a week or so ago.

I have to tell you how much I enjoyed reading this piece
you have done about the Soul. I have done research on
the Soul because of the nature of my writing, and I concur
with everything you have said.

I have been into metaphysical spirituality for over
thirty years. I live in Dallas, and have attended the
largest Unity church here for twenty-five years. We get
all the big time important speakers through here. I feel
like I am somewhat knowledgeable in the field.

Anyway I was never a writer before. I was an interior designer.
One day seven years ago on my way to the office driving in my
car and this powerful urge came over me to write. I could tell
it was important,I had nothing to write on, so I grabbed the electric bill envelope out of my handbag and I began writing on that. I would write and look up, and write and look up until I got to my office.
When I did get to the office I couldent believe my eyes.

These things that were coming to me would say at the end "I AM YOUR SOUL" These things just kept coming, and coming. It would not stop.

These things would move me to tears. It was about the guidance of the Soul. To me what I have received is important because it validates the guidance of the human Soul.

I was told by our minister in deep meditation that I would do three books: "ONE" "2 of ONE", and "3 of ONE." I now have done this.

The first one is about the evolutionary progression of the human Soul. The second one is about the Heart and Soul, and the third one is about the Universe and the soul that deals with Quantum thought, like the little plant story that I posted.

My Soul is pushing me to get this work published. I guess I need an agent.

Bob I am sending you one of the very first pieces that came to me when all this first started. It is called "I, AM, YOUR SOUL"

Till next time,

Jane Adams/Soul Poet

"I AM YOUR SOUL"

You are my locomotion
here on planet earth
the vehicle on which
I choose to ride.

And always know
while here on earth
no matter where you go
that I will always be
right by your side.

To guide your path
is my intent
to make
your Souls progression.
This is the thing.
that we both can do.

The two of us
here on earth
back this time together.
I'm truly pleased
that I can be with you.

So buckle up
your seat belt
and we will
have some fun.
Planet earth is fun
I promise you.

Just sit back
and follow me
I'll show you what to do.
I'm pretty smart
I know a thing or two.
Earth 101
is what we came to do.

And when this ride is over
you'll know we were a team
that can't be beat
no matter what you do.

And I
know you'll remember
what a happy time we had.
I am your Soul
and I was here with you.

"I AM YOUR SOUL"

~ Jane Adams

Submitted by Bob Johnston on September 6, 2007 - 6:15am.

Hi Jane ~

Thank you for your feedback and comments. Your poem is beautiful and accordingly your title "Soul Poet" most fitting.

I couldn't help but think of the acronym SOAL -- which I use as shorthand for the all-pervading Mystery, the Source of All -- as also a homonym for your macrocosmic view of SOUL.

Your SOUL and my SOAL appear to have identical meanings. I would guess Carl Jung would call that an instance demonstrating synchronicity, i.e. a meaningful coincidence.

Well, anyway I enjoyed your response to my blog, your poetry in particular. I hope to read your books someday. I would wish you good luck but that seems superfluous considering the charmed life you already seem to enjoy in SOUL.

Yours with empathy and trust in integral natural science and our infinite timeless aware mysterious SOAL-SOUL within whom we are all constituent souls (Whew! I know that's a long one).

Bob

Submitted by Jane Adams on September 7, 2007 - 9:38am.

OH! Thank you Bob. I just really loved everything that you
had to say to me. As a matter of fact I like every thing that
you have had to say period. I especially like your comments
to other comments.

I am sending you another piece that was one of the very first
ones that came to me when it all started seven years ago.

Till next time,
All my very best,

Jane Adams/Soul Poet

TELL THESE THING'S
~ by Jane Adams

Tell these things
and say these things
to one's of those
who'll listen.

They all have souls
residing
deep inside.

Try to open
up their hearts
as they
listen to you.

For an open heart
the soul
can always guide.

A loving heart
that's tender
will always feel
the presence
of guidance from
a loving soul inside.

Life is not
a destination.
It's an awesome
journey.

The path
that you will take
your soul
will guide . . .

I AM YOUR SOUL

Submitted by Bob Johnston on September 7, 2007 - 1:42pm.

Again, Jane, your poetry is moving and beautiful. Thank you for posting. Warmly, Bob

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