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The Great Shift!

Angela Murphy | 02.15.08 | 12:46 PM |
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We asked many leaders in spirituality, science and the consciousness field to discuss the question, "How can we create a great shift on planet earth in the years ahead?"

How would YOU answer that question?

You can listen to the recorded discussions here: http://www.shiftinaction.com/discover/audios/great_shift_dialogues

And post your responses here!

peace,
Angela

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Submitted by Rev Dr Charles ... on February 28, 2008 - 7:08pm.

We Are All Kingdom Of Lights Traveler for Jesus Christ,
the first and the last perfect consciousness.

He knew we'd lost our awareness of self, in relation to being from the same metaphysical, genetic, atomic, molecular etc. begining as every living human being we might lay eyes or ears on.

Competition is the biggest obstacle and evil on this confused planet of people; who are only looking for the greatest love of self they can encounter.

What greater love than to learn how to be a collective of the image and likeness of our God and Creator?

What greater power than the power of one?

What sounder mind can anyone gain?

Can we reach and teach this truth that will both unite and set people's minds free from the demons of inadequacy, which makes each generation esculate against other souls for survival?

Jesus has said, "seek first the kingdom of heaven..." because "...the kingdom of heaven is within..."

No guilt; no condemnation; no fault...just freedom through forgiveness.

Some will find it, some will die denying it.

If you know where you're from, you know what to teach.

New Note:
IONS has enough understanding of how our perceptions have been formed however, does IONS have the courage to see and teach others how to remove the illusions of separated consciousness.

Entangled Minds and The Power of Intentions have been huge indicators of how healing we can be when we calapse the illusions of separation.

Can we at least imagine being able to show compassionate understanding for the minds that have become lost in the most heinous and horrific acts of violence and destruction?

If we can imagine that, we are already at the gate of The Heavenly Kingdom.

And dispite what any religion promises tomorrow, that "Kingdom of God" IS already within us, as well as all around us.

We only need to open the eyes of our soul by living from the understanding in our heart.

That is the love humanity has unwillingly lost, and now, desperately seeks.

Submitted by Bob Johnston on February 27, 2008 - 7:45pm.

Angela, do you know if anyone in IONS has given thought to creating a shift in action children's education TV show and/or website? With at least two companies I know of now producing free laptops for poverty-stricken children in third world countries educational programming could be a powerful force for facilitating the great shift. For integral health, education, empathy and peace, Bob

Submitted by Jeffery DeCelles on February 28, 2008 - 5:46am.

Now THAT's fertile thinking, Bob! What I suggest be loaded on these laptops is Wild Divine-style biofeedback games, where kids learn to modulate their own psycho-neurology while picking up coherent comprehension of global systems, like weather, or other immediately applicable dynamical system. Imagine a population of kids who can dial in theta-wave states at will, go into superlearning, master a topic at PhD. level in a few months, while keeping their cool.
I would incorporate Psi-Trainer, a random-number-generator based software package, to cultivate non-local awareness. (www.psigenics.com).

Submitted by Butterfly-Bee on February 28, 2008 - 2:42pm.

Unencumbered
All you have to do to create a shift starting with children is to teach them yoga and meditation. And....let them go outside and play.
Barbara

Submitted by Bob Johnston on February 29, 2008 - 7:58pm.

Hi Barbara,

Wish I could agree with you . . . it would be so much easier if it really worked that way. For example, I raised three children in an integrally healthy pyschospiritual home environment believing they would continue the shift after they went out on their own. Fortunately, one did. Another married an evangelical Christian minister and sadly another developed bipolar disorder in his 40s (highly unusual to develop it so late)and is now drawing disability SS. Also, my two step-sons were raised on TM but married Roman Catholic women. The one who has children is raising them to follow that the RC faith. I suppose one out of five still flowing with the shift is better than none . . .

Best wishes,

Bob

Submitted by Rev Dr Charles ... on March 1, 2008 - 6:15am.

Brother Bob,

your children are all in The Great Shift.

If you can see it, look at the snapshots of their present identities.

What we call ourselves are merely plateaus on a hill.

Religions give us a sense of belonging and worth but eventually, fall short of helping us actualize our interconnected awareness.

TM helps us lift our awareness out of the muck and mire of society's hypnosis of social conditioning but it fails to give us an awareness of our relationship to society as fellow spiritual beings.

And mental health disorders, such as Bi-Polar or, Scizophrenia, which I was diagnosed with as an adolescent, are the result of finding our selves alone in the task of sorting out the truth that has saturated us into confusion.

Each state of consciousness or, plateau is necessary and has a universe of hope and potential.

However, we must begin with or, more precisely, return to a fundamental and universal truth, if we are to actualize our true identity and purpose for having awareness of self.

Children's awareness have the most potential for development because they don't have the fixed and stubborn egos that insist their limited reality about being separate lives, is reality.

Yoga can do a lot to settle the ADHD in our kids and meditation can give them some solid "inner vision" to guide them towards actualizing their spiritual selves.

But a crystalized question is,
what is it that all people want to hear, see (believe), and then actualize?

It seems to me, such a question may be motivating our quest.

Charles
Kingdom Of Lights Traveler for Jesus Christ
(KOLT4JC)

Submitted by Butterfly-Bee on March 1, 2008 - 5:10pm.

Unencumbered
Charles,
Maybe just a more loving world.
Barbara

Submitted by Bob Johnston on March 1, 2008 - 7:18am.

Dear Brother Charles,

First, let me affirm your right to believe anything you want as long as it doesn't harm me or others. And of course I enjoy the same right.

Having said that, before I can respond to your comments in the context of what our mysterious Source OmniMind (OM) and I suggest is the intention of "The Great Shift", I request you read three of my earlier SIA posts. One is titled "Some Notes on Why I Transcended Christianity" http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/3679, the second is "An Integral Noetic Allegory About our Origin and Mission of Earth" http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/2333 and the third is "My One Shift? Mutual Integral Health Consciousness Worldwide." http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/3288.

If you elect to do so, once you have read those posts I suggest we get back together and discuss our commonalities and differences in point of view. What say?

Yours with empathy and trust in evidence-based integral natural science and our omnipresent, timeless Source of all consciousness, health and understanding,

Brother Bob

Submitted by Rev Dr Charles ... on March 1, 2008 - 12:39pm.

Robert, my friend...
belief in anything, harmful or not is a right of existence.
To apply conditions to your beliefs, because they may or may not be harmful is a judgment made by human limitations, not by The One whom endows the so called "good people", "bad people" and "ugly people" with the breath of life.

Mental and Religious institutions, prisons, corporations, and governments are cluttered with such labelled people and the "experts" are dogmatic in their disagreements.

I, on the other hand, must acknowledge, not affirm, your right to believe the thoughts that have awakened you thus far; whether they be harmful to anyone or not because I know what is harmful to what is enevidable.
Nothing!
This faith has substance that was just a hope; and now the eveidence can be shown to anyone who asks the questions.
I have.

I appreciate your efforts to share the links you've provided but I'm more interested in what YOU'VE actualized, in your ability to relate to me and the others around you.

So permit me to prepose an exchange of understanding.

Note:
I can not share links to my sources because they are, frankly, too numerable to recall and/or list.

However, I do know the truth as it applies, without condemnation or judgment, to us all.

Therefore the "differences" you may believe we have are merely adopted opinions, constituted paradigms which have no bases in the eternal spiritual truth that surrounds us and permiates our being.

To exemplify this, I will ask you:

Are all things physical (including us) mere optical illusions
of our conditioned consciousness?

In other words, is there an energetic power that permiates all things?

Charles
Kingdom Of Lights Traveler for Jesus Christ

Submitted by Bob Johnston on March 1, 2008 - 3:39pm.

Brother Charles,

You asked,"Are all things physical (including us) mere optical illusions?"

I suggest the hypothesis implied in your question is one possible option.

Another option is that some physical things (including our temporal bodies) seem like optical illusions because they are transitory and rarely have a perceived sensation of constancy about them, yet at the same time they have a certain feeling of tangible reality, especially when I get hungry or thirsty, or I break a leg, etc.

Still another option is that temporal physical things, whether perceived as relatively transitory or not, are perceived through the filters of our involuntarily conditioned consciousnesses, respectively, and are therefore unreliable without scientific exploration and investigation for validity and reliability. And even with scientific investigation the best evidence we can come up with is probablistic and therefore always subject to a greater or lesser degree of further study (there is no such thing as proving anything in natural science, just more or less probably true). I accept this option as a basis for my 'probablistic-evidence-based knowledge system" long before I would even consider an outright myth or fiction-based belief system (as I once did).

In other words, integral natural science-based probablistic-evidence-based knowledge systems come closest for me to reliable reality, transitory and/or intransitory. Having said that, I recognize not everything in integral nature is accessible to scientific investigation, logic and deduction . . . that is where my Sourceology (my non-theistic working hypotheses about our Source, extrapolated from integral natural science, comes into the picture (already cited in an earlier post to you).

In closing I suggest: If one views all things, events and situations from her or his inner ‘place’ of centered, balanced, transparent timeless consciousness, every interpretation of each perception is an option, and every response to one's interpretation is an option with consequences. Each of those may be controllable, only influenceable, or utterly uncontrollable, relative to realizing mutual integral health, empathy, understanding, wisdom, and full functioning as one consciously evolves in soul, body and ecosystem.

Nice chatting with you, Charles.

Yours with empathy and trust in evidence-based integral natural science and our infinite, timeless, omnipresent, caring mysterious Source of all of us,

Brother Bob

Submitted by Butterfly-Bee on March 1, 2008 - 5:02pm.

Unencumbered
My Lord,
Hours ago, I started to answer Bob's post about his children. My computer connection went haywire...I could almost believe it came from the energy of my Brothers Bob and Charles.

This is what I think I said:

Your daughter who married an evangelical minister may find it easier to find "the kingdom within" because she learned to meditate. Your Catholic sons meditate when they do the rosary.

My brother who recently passed was bipolar and was refused assistance from Social Security. What have you learned from your son?

I think the shift is simple; ever-present; right under our noses; right before our eyes. We look for it under every piece of paper; scrap of cloth; dust ball; inside; outside; everywhere. I believe the shift is love and forgiveness. When we love, we accept people for who they are, and part of that is what they believe. That means the shift must include diversity of many kinds. We cannot control other people. It would be nice if we wouldn't want to.

Now looking under the sofa for the shift,
I remain your friend,
Barbara

Submitted by Bob Johnston on March 2, 2008 - 7:09am.

Dear Sister Barbara,

Good to hear from you again. Glad you're my friend.

My experience with meditation tells me there are at least two kinds: one, meditating on our essential oneness with the timeless, transparent, infinite "oceanic", omnipresent Source of us all; and second, meditating on the symbols of a given spiritual and/or religious path.

The first type of meditation leads to not only conscious awareness of one's interdependence and intercommunication with our mysterious caring Source but also disidentification and liberation from temporal attachments, identifications and addictions. In other words, it leads to integral healthful values and practices in terms of mind-body, social, vocational, economic, aesthetic and ecosystem in alignment with what I have come to see are the values and practices of our transtemporal souls.

When people ask me how I would know when we are significantly well along in experiencing the "Great Paradigm Shift" I answer when "integral health" is manifest throughout the critical mass of humanity. For me, if it's not integrally healthful it's not indicative of the Great Paradigmatic Shift. This is essentially what my children were taught.

Four out of five of our beloved children, for one reason or another, have diverted their focus to meditating on mythic or fiction-based symbols which can have some placebo-type benefits but are also divisive, hence socially dysfunctional and unhealthful. They say if you don't believe in the myth-based dogma of their particular religious group you aren't acceptable. For example, my daughter who married a Lutheran (Missouri Synod) minister didn't invite my wife and me to her wedding because "you don't believe like we do." My two step-sons are married to Roman Catholic wives, respectively, who are careful to keep my wife and I at a "safe" distance from them and our grandchildren because we don't believe in their dogma. As to my son with bipolar, the etiology of his illness appears caused by neurological damage he suffered during an inordinately long time in the birth canal.

So the bottom line is that my wife and I are continually empathetic, understanding, forgiving, longsuffering and supportive of their right to believe and meditate as they wish, but our love and understanding are unrequited. Yet, we like to think that someday they will revert to the integrally healthful "big tent" meditation intention -- oneness with our Source and all that implies -- they were taught in their early years. This, to Mill and me, would certainly help us all in realizing the Great Paradigmatic Shift for integral health for ultimately all humankind -- individual mind-body, social, educational, vocational, economic, aesthetic and ecosystem health.

Warm wishes,

Brother Bob

P.S. By the way, did you find evidence of the great shift under your sofa? Under ours you would find shifting dust. Hope it's healthful dust ;-)

Submitted by Butterfly-Bee on March 2, 2008 - 10:45am.

Unencumbered
"Ashes to ashes and dust to dust"
You never know where you might find that shift.

I'll comment on the rest later. Having a rough day. Listened to the brain wave tape "Ectasy" and just kept crying about my brother.
Blessings,
Barbara

Submitted by Bob Johnston on March 2, 2008 - 12:38pm.

Dear Barbara,

My sympathies are with you . . . I know the feeling for I lost a brother a few years back. His body died of a pulmonary embolism at the young chronological age of 52. I have found recent scientific findings at the University of Virginia, University of Arizona and Michael Newton's empirical findings on the reality of transtemporal life between temporal lives most compelling and consoling. Newton's research, for example, disclosed every soul goes to 'heaven'. . . there is no hell. Souls who in this temporal life have led criminal lives go to a rehabilitation center, they are not punished.

I hope this isn't going to sound vain and arrogant but I have found the shift to integral health and full functioning for my self and my wonderful loving wife Mill. Also, I have had the satisfying good fortune to have helped many in my community group to experience it to some degree or another. Also I have helped some large organizations experience a shift to more integral health and fuller functioning. So, I know it happens and have faith it can spread throughout at least the critical mass of humanity worldwide. I just hope it spreads quickly.

My thoughts and prayers continue to be with you,

With empathy,

Your friend Bob

Submitted by Bob Johnston on February 28, 2008 - 6:42am.

. . . that 'nailing' took two 'hammers' . . . actually, my psychospiritual consultant OM and I cocreatively came up with that one. But thank you from both of us and for your own fertile ideas. They're exciting. Keep 'em coming . . . warm regards, Bob

Submitted by Jeffery DeCelles on February 26, 2008 - 11:23am.

First, kudos to the SIA production crew for a great batch of dialogs.
Now, my pitch: I don't see Great Shifts emerging from government, academia, corporate media, or established religion, since all are centrally concerned with control. All have domains of influence, discrete access to power, and precedent for being.

The Great Shift is without precedent.
The Great Shift is non-locally empowered.
The Great Shift has global influence.
The Great Shift embodies chaotic-dynamic processes, beyond prediction or control.

What can be understood about this mysterious, emergent thing?

> It involves increasing density of interconnectedness, across all domains.

> It is rooted in manifest being, the Maternal Matrix, now understood to be energetic fields occasionally masquerading as discrete particles. Platonic super-spaces and suchlike can take a number and wait in the hall.

> All one can say about this thing, is dwarfed by what can't be said. The quantum enigma has come home to roost, Newton and Descartes are cowering together under the couch, and Einstein is laughing so hard he's wet himself.

> The intimations of Great Shift morphogenesis filter back retro-temporally from the fait accompli, colored by each perceptor's collide-o-scopic awareness. No surprise that apocalypse refuses to set a firm date, or book a venue for the event.

> From my vantage, only the notion of "forward escape" holds redemptive water. The trajectory has such momentum, all I see to do is tighten the harness and slam the gleaming lever forward.

Nature loves courage.

Submitted by Bob Johnston on February 17, 2008 - 11:04am.

Hi Angela,

First, I am assuming the specific intention of the "Great Shift" you are referencing is identical to the stated IONS Mission: “Exploring the frontiers of consciousness to advance individual, social, and global transformation.”

To make the intention of the transformation clearer in our minds our IONS Community Group has amended that statement to read: “Exploring the frontiers of consciousness to advance individual, social, and global transformation to an integrally healthful, full functioning state of being.” I am using this statement of mission to frame my response to your question, "How can we create a great shift on planet earth in the years ahead?"

Please consider my response below in the context of an earlier blog to you titled My One Shift? Mutual Integral Health Consciousness World-Wide http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/3288

SOME VARIABLES TO CONSIDER

My experience in large corporate organization transformation over the past four-plus decades has taught me that no matter how noble and healthful a proposed change may be we can expect it to meet with three kinds of forces: one, those who support the change; two, those who are non-commital either in support of or resisting the change; and three; those who to a greater or lesser degree oppose the change.

Further complicating matters, each those three forces -- supporters, non-committeds and opposers -- of the change are three kinds: one, those who readily follow our lead especially if done participatively; two, those we can only try to influence; and three, those who are too wily, big, fast and intransigent to be 'sold' on making the change.

So how do we best re-educate the neutral and opposing forces in world-wide human society to work with us toward realization of our IONS Mission?

My experience has taught me the fallacies of the 'tell and sell approach' on both sensory and parasensory perception levels of consciousness. While some may readily accede to our enlistment and conversion attempts the rest will not only resist but even try to destroy our movement because they will see it as a threat to their established power whether that power is monetary, religious or political or some combination thereof.

So the question becomes how can we present our mission as a practical benefit relative to mind-body, social, economic, educational, vocational, aesthetic and ecosystem health and well being to the populace governed by heads of state of the neutrals and resisters sufficiently cogently that they want to participate with us to realize the accomplishment of our stated mission of “Exploring the frontiers of consciousness to advance individual, social, and global transformation to an integrally healthful, full functioning state of being.”

A SUGGESTED STRATEGY (adapted from a previous post)

I have over four decades of experience helping large systems (Fortune 500 companies) change their respective organization cultures. While not identical, of course, to facilitating change within a whole country's society, based on what studies I've read over the years, I have come to see there are characteristics large corporate systems and whole societies have in common and those which are different. Without getting into a full-blown discussion of the commonalities and differences, which could take writing a shelf full of large books, let me just outline an approach I would use were I to be the facilitator of change in a whole society.

Note that I would custom-design the questions et al I pose below to harmonize as much as healthfully possible with cultural preferences in protocol, etc. while at the same time elicit the kind of information these questions are designed to satisfy.

First, I would contact the head of the nation and request an interview with her or him and their key staff for the purpose of open discussions relative to the following questions posed in an open, empathetic and understanding way (rather than a condescending, judgmental or 'cross-examination' way):

a. Would you care to discuss the current state of your citizens' integral health -- meaning mind-body, social, economic, educational, vocational aesthetic and ecosystemic well being? If so, what percentage would you say are generally healthy? How many are critically ill? Have you estimates of how the state of your country's individual and social, and ecosystemic health is affecting your economic health? Are you satisfied your government is doing all it can to remedy the situation?

b. If not satisfied, what is your country currently doing to improve individual mind-body, social and ecosystemic health?

c. What programs are you satisfied with? Why?

d. What programs would you like to improve? Why?

e. If improvement is desired, would you like assistance in improving them? If so, what role would you see such assistance taking form? How open are you to exploring options which may be new to you? What limits might you impose on such assistance?

f. If assistance by my staff and me in improving these programs is desired how much of your personal and staff's time and effort and national resources can you commit to supporting and participating with us in doing the necessary program and development work?

Note: The client head of government's answers to these questions are key to the success of the national health program for two reasons: one, participation usually means joint ownership for the decisions reached in terms of both health policy and administration. Two, joint ownership also means joint accountability for the success/failure of the practical day-to-day 'where the rubber meets the road' health program.

g. If the client head of government and staff indicate they want to proceed to the next level of planning we would together develop an action plan.

If the client head of state and staff indicate their decision is to outright reject or table the whole health change program for their country for a time of course that would be their prerogative. Trying to autocratically order them or apply hard sell approaches to changing their minds would only cause their defenses to go up.

I would move on to introducing my approach to other countries until I find one willing to get involved in such a change. If successful, the countries who may have earlier turned down or tabled health change planning may well decide to take another look.

I'm interested in reviewing whatever feedback you and other readers may have for me.

Warmly,

Bob

Submitted by Angela Murphy on February 19, 2008 - 5:34pm.

Hello Bob,

That's a wonderful proposal! It would be very interesting indeed to hear our own government's responses to your questions.

It would certainly create a shift in the world if governments would even consider looking at their citizen's integral health.

Thanks for your response.

Angela

Submitted by Bob Johnston on February 28, 2008 - 12:11pm.

. . . if at the same their citizens can create, on both sensory a parasensory levels, a ground swell of pressure which helps them see that sharing more power with their people actually accrues to their benefit. It's the idea of giving up autocratic power to gain more power through democratically shared power.

An illustration of what can be done is early Polaroid. While not on the level of a national government, back in the 60s grassroot levels of employees at Polaroid Corporation exerted pressure on the genius inventor and quite autocratic chief executive Dr. Edwin Land to change organization communications to become more humanistic with the idea that it would help all of Polaroid become more successful. He not only acquiesced but supported their requests with policy and procedure changes plus ample budget to hire a team of professional organization development consultants to facilitate the desired shift. During the 60s and 70s Polaroid was the 'corporate-world's poster child' for what we called "bottom-up" organization development and how it could help a business organization become more qualitatively and quanitatively successful.

In recent years, of course, Polaroid has had its problems -- most beyond its control -- due major changes in photographic technology, market changes and other socioeconomic conditions which have preciptated large layoffs. But that's another story.

What are your feelings and thoughts?

Warm wishes,

Bob

Submitted by RolandG on February 17, 2008 - 5:45am.


One important thing is information for me:
Information that forms a new way of thinking and acting
The Quality of Information is the seed that grow in the mind and heart of the human beings. It is very important to spread the knowledge for a personal transformation and a global mind shifting. There are many ways to do that in the everyday life. Change is starting within us and with us in a personally manner. We are the key for a change! It's not out there it's you that has to start the change. If you make a change, everything changes around you.

Namaste Roland

Submitted by MaAnna Stephenson on March 10, 2008 - 6:24pm.

Roland, I totally agree with you that information leading to new ways of thinking is a key ingredient. The harmonious blending of different ways of knowing, both through the rational and intuitive processes is very important. I enjoy educating myself in both and spending time with others who are experienced in both/either. It's been fascinating to learn each language and what's most meaningful to both. I have found the combined information to be personally transformative and has shifted my thinking away from either/or to both/and where each can exist in peaceful balance within me.

So many of the popular models of the rational and the intuitive are outdated. Thanks to some courageous and visionary thinkers we now have new models emerging. They have taken a bit of time to catch on, but I’m encouraged by organizations like IONS and the global participation through forums like this that more seekers will embrace new ways of thinking, being and doing. By that, we will change our world.

MaAnna

Submitted by Butterfly-Bee on February 16, 2008 - 5:17pm.

Unencumbered
I don't have an answer. Sequoyah Trueblood is worth listening to. I met him years ago, and my husband knew him. It's interesting to find him here.

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