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The One Single Universal Question ... & Carl Jung's Wierd Mind

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The One Single Universal Question --- that has been controlling my mind!

Something very strange is going on.

Four days ago it was my birthday. Four days ago was Friday. Four days ago a book was dropped off by the postman at my friend, Dr. Cramer’s office. That was all the same day. My friend opened it … looked it over for a few minutes and thought “Now this is something Larry would like to see.”

Failing to look at the box that it came in … he had his office lady gift wrap the book and later that Friday night he and his wife joined up with my wife Karen, our family and myself for a dinner party where he gave me his birthday gift, a book entitled “Archetype Revisited … An Updated Natural History of the Self” by Anthony Stevens.

Nothing strange yet … or is there?

So anyway this weekend I managed to have lots of time and got into a third of the book. Unbelievable! Here is what I have been looking for … for the last four years.

I have posted requests on this blog site and many others. I have emailed countless authors with “THE QUESTION” (including noted author and psi research champion Gary E. Schwartz, Ph.D. and professor of psychology, medicine, neurology, psychiatry and surgery at the University of Arizona and author of such noted books “The God Experiments” and “The Living Energy Universe”) and no one has pointed me to the answer. In fact, no one has even given me a clue where to go for the answer, including the top research folks at IONS. And then “this book” mysteriously shows up at my friend’s office.

“So Larry … get to the point” you mind hollers out as you read these lines.

“Absolutely” I respond. The >>> ??? One Single Universal Question??? <<< that has bugged me for all these years is “Are beliefs living energy systems?” and by living I mean … living … just as you and I are “living.”

“And so what did this book tell you Larry?” your mind quickly asks. I smile … “Just as I thought … Yes!” Beliefs are living systems.

A few years ago I wrote a manuscript (still unpublished ) that among other things posit the notion that man, animal and the cosmos all think using the same operating system, an operating system that I sense I have uncovered. But for the hypotheses to withstand academic challenge I first needed to at least find other corroborating sources that imply that “belief systems” are living.

Now by now you have read many of my previous posts and probably think that I have lost it. I mean how many people would go to live for nearly three years at the bottom of the Grand Canyon in 118 degree summers.

You see if I really am all that peculiar and crazy - as I have interpreted the looks and silent responses and stares from others to mean - then I have somehow … and quite by accident I assure you … fallen into a very strange and peculiar canyon … a canyon of mind fields if you will yielding very unique observations … that has historically entertained a very different class of students. A class of students that including the likes of the Greek philosopher and seer Plato; the noted Swiss psychiatrist, influential thinker and the founder of Jungian archetypical (analytical) psychology Carl Gustav Jung; the Dutch ethologist and ornithologist, Nikolaas "Niko" Tinbergen who shared the 1973 Nobel Prize in Psychology their discoveries concerning organization and elicitation of individual and social behavior patterns in animals; the German astronomer, Johannes Kepler, and world acclaimed Austrian-Swiss physicist, Wolfgang Pauli; Avram Noam Chomsky, the American linguist, philosopher, author and professor emeritus at MIT and Werner Karl Heisenberg, the a celebrated German physicist and Nobel laureate … one of the founders of quantum mechanics and acknowledged to be one of the most important physicists of the twentieth century.

And what precisely did these men intuit while attending this fascinating mind field of peculiarities? Let me quote their observations, inclinations and assessments for you to decide.

“Like all great ideas, the archetypical hypothesis was not entirely original. It has a long and respectable pedigree, which goes back at least as far as Plato. Jung himself acknowledged his debt to Plato, describing archetypes as “active living dispositions, ideas in the Platonic sense, that perform and continually influence our thoughts and feelings and actions” (CW 8. para. 154)” P. 44 - Archetype Revisited

“Jung’s first use of the term “archetype” came in 1919 (CW 8. Para. 270 ) Greek in origin, it dates from classical times and means “prime imprinter; usually it referred to an original manuscript from which later copies were made.”

“Archetypes, she [Irene Champernowne} declared, are biological entities. They are present, in related forms, throughout the animal kingdom. Like all biological entities they have a natural history: they are subject to the laws of evolution. In other words, archetypes evolved through natural selection.” P. 17 Archetype Revisited

“For the archetype, as Jung conceived it, is a precondition and coexistent of life itself; its manifestations reach not only upward to the spiritual heights of religion, art, and metaphysics, but also down into the dark realms of organic and inorganic matter.” P. 34 - Archetype Revisited

(LJC’s Note: This above quote makes a huge assertion that all things … including energy and its denser precipitated state of matter are all influenced and pattern formed by the underlying archetypes of order. It is as though archetypes are to energy-mass formations as magnetic fields influence iron filings)

“While it is true that specific grammars (like mythological motifs) show rich diversity throughout the world, Chomsky believes their basic form - what he calls their “deep structures” - to be universal. Languages all perform the same essential functions in finite ways, and once their “deep structures” have been defined, all languages should, he thinks, prove reducible to the universal (or “archetypal”) grammar on which all individual grammars are based.” P. 49 - Archetype Revisited

“German astronomer, Johannes Kepler (1571 - 1630) … believed that his delight in scientific discovery was due to the mental exercise of matching ideas or images already implanted in his mind by God with external events perceived through his senses. This interpretation of scientific enquiry also owed its origins to Plato but was much developed by Kepler, who spoke of his innate ideas and images as “archetypal.” Echoes of the same notion are to be found in Kant’s dictum that “there can be no empirical knowledge that is not already caught and limited by the “a priori” structure of cognition. “For to know is to compare that which is externally perceived with inner ideas and to judge that is agrees with them, a process which Proclus expressed very beautifully by the word “awakening” as from sleep.” wrote Kepler (1619)” P. 50-51 Archetype Revisited

“A non-Jungian who has devoted serous attention to this matter is Charles R. Card of the Department of Physics and Astronomy, the University of Victoria in British Columbia. Writing in the Jungian journal “Psychological Perspectives” in 1995, Card argued: “Even within the discipline of analytical psychology itself, it is not widely recognized that Jung’s work is scientifically based and, in fact is brilliant science - his method was innovative and original and his discoveries were profound. Once the far-reaching implications of Jung’s work (particularly from the later years of his life) are more fully developed, they may well prove to be just as transformative to our scientific world view as were the discoveries of quantum physics, for they apply not only to the psyche, but to the nature of matter and energy as well.” P. 86 - Archetype Revisited (bold emphasis added)

And finally --- and just for one more corroborating source in my defense of sanity “Another eminent physicist, Werner Heisenberg came, towards the end of his life, to see the fundamental aspects of nature not as residing in the particles themselves but in the “symmetries” (around) which the particles form. Perceiving the parallel between Heisenberg’s “symmetries” and Jung’s “archetypes”, the physicist David Peat (1987) argued: “These fundamental symmetries could be thought of as the archetypes of all matter and the ground of material existence. The elementary particles themselves would be simply the material realization of these underlying symmetries” Peat 1987, P. 94.” P. 86 - Archetype Revisited

So … what’s so strange and peculiar about all of this?

First of all, I just now found out that this book was addressed and intended for a medical office two blocks down the street and has been accidentally delivered by the postman to Dr. Cramer’s office. Now he has to go out, purchase a replacement book and then deliver it to the person that originally ordered the book. Hmm, was this a synchronicity series of errors and oversights?

Second, for years now I have been struggling with an unanswered nagging question. A question that’s archetype strongly resembles my granddaughter’s behavior when wet, stinky and hungry. It has been “The One Single Universal Question” that has driven me to peculiar states of disassociating madness and mental dementia. Are beliefs living cosmic energy systems that control man’s capacity and processes to think, reason, feel, respond and experience the effects within what we call life? Which in and of itself, the question and answer strongly suggests that man can not think with out the substance of thought … archetypical belief systems.

So then … the next obvious thought transporting question would be “If beliefs gather and unite within self-sustaining support systems, i.e. collective communities … then how would these collective beliefs differ from Jung’s “archetypes?” The question is obviously rhetoric … and merely amplifies the answer … they wouldn’t.

Belief systems - aka archetypes - are living, self sustaining, self-evolving energy patterns that have indiscriminate and predisposed preferences as to how all forms of energy relate, support and perpetuate the “function and form” of life, ie the conscious states of energy and mass itself.

And so it is.

Paradise Found

Deception Pass to Paradise Lost
Man pays … and identity costs.

Fact or fiction, Truth or lies
Those are the beliefs that cover our eyes.

Change your beliefs within your brain
To create what your heart seeks to gain.

Change the lenses … you’ll change what you see.
Paradise Found … mans to be free.
Yrall Nosrac - 2000

And so … “Now what?”

Now I need your help.

I need to identify a group of people seriously interested in doing some very intense, academic raw research to discover the “operating system” by which the universe and man co-operatively think together within the Jungian Archetypical field of our “Collective Consciousness” …

If anyone on this blog knows of any “Current and Serious Research” being done in the fields of systems thinking, epistemology, meta-micro biology, quantum physics, etc. please either post same here or feel free to email me at LJohnCarson@msn.com.

I thank you all for your thoughts and any feedback you may have to offer. But I warn you; such thinking may lead you within a very peculiar library … an internal mental state of being really peculiar, weird and strange.

Unfortunately for those that actually got on the about thought transporters and followed my thought tracks as written above … its way too late. You have already been inducted into a state only shared by the boldly curious and venturous types, such as the likes of Tinbergen, Kepler, Pauli, Chomsky, Heisenberg, and yes Carl Jung … and perhaps Eugene Wesley or "Gene" Roddenberry. 

PS

On a subject more to home … When ever I can’t read “the honey do list” that my wife has written on the refrigerator … I don and unite with my glasses. When ever I can’t seem to make sense in what I am thinking … I don and unite with different beliefs. It’s amazing what a new and fresh set of beliefs can do for a 64 year old man with a new birthday gift. Panoramas from new belief’s are breathtaking. Do you want to see something really cool?

Well start looking for a huge unknown canyon ... at least a mile deep and five miles wide. It can be of Mother Earth ... or of Cosmic Father and just travel where you have never gone before ... and never mind if you return the same.

Wise folk seek out and intentionally enter within those peculiar canyons. I somehow was just stumbling along the hidden edge and just fell in … and the result were absolutely amazing. I am now seeking the whereabouts of Rip Van Winkle. Anyone have any clues, maps or cell number?

The Lost Traveler ---- Yrral Nosrac

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Submitted by Jeffery DeCelles on May 7, 2008 - 2:17pm.

Deep in it, aren't ya, Larry? Down the rabbit hole, my friend.

I kept thinking of Rupert Sheldrake as I read this post, and of Anthony Peake, frequent poster here. You and Tony seem on convergent tracks, no surprise if we postulate a teleologic attractor operating in this phase-space, bent on exposition of archetypal ontology.
That, I do.

Squirming in the birth canal
Natal Dei
The narrow neck constrains;

Waddington's creode of developemental causuistry
shapes an embryonic supercreature,
The attractor is strange, but the Being-to-Be is no Stranger,
we all know that Face.

I don't seek to prove the Wave is real.
Surf's up, there's a "Presense" in the pipe,
and my role seems as witness, maybe Lifeguard
(my first noble profession).

Empiricism is OK, if you're into Empire,
but, been there, done that, five millenia's enough,
thanks for all the glory.
No, really, quite sufficient, lovely stonework though!

Part C.S. Lewis, part H.P. Lovecraft, it's close, now, real close.
Hear it? Smell it? Feel it? The furious density of syncronistic
embedment is the bow-shock of its emergence, non-local shudders
in the rapture of Chaos, archaic gaping void birthing Creation.

It's always been the fringe types who hear the music first, Larry.

Lucky us, huh?

Submitted by Lawrence Carson on May 8, 2008 - 7:34am.

“When the physical body stops playing … Music of the ears becomes music of the spheres” Zinnic

Its been said that the perfect but inaudible music that Pythagoras and other later philosophers believed was created by the movement of astronomical objects. Who knows, perhaps it’s the archetypes tugging at the heart strings of man.

All I know Jeffery is what I heard ... felt ... and integrated deep with ... when I was admitted "into" the core essence of the granite stepping stones leading into a vast library of curiosita. Jeffery, thanks for your post. It reminds and touches all at the same time.

L C

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