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C G Jung - "The Dioscuri"

Anthony Peake | 05.12.08 | 07:26 AM |
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I received an email recently from Dr. Arthur Funkhouser of Berne in Switzerland. Art forwarded me an email that had been sent to him by a friend from Australia. Art wished to let me know the similarities between my theory of the Daemon-Eidolon Dyad and those of the great psycho-analyst Carl Gustav Jung. Jung uses the term Dioscuri. I have been long aware of Jung's writings but it was new to me exactly how similar to mine they are. Here an extended quote from his book "Concerning Rebirth" -

"This “other being” is the other person in ourselves – that larger and greater personality maturing within us, whom we have already met as the inner friend of the soul. That is why we take comfort whenever we find the friend and companion depicted in a ritual, an example being the friendship between Mithras and the sun-god. This relationship is a mystery to the scientific intellect, because the intellect is accustomed to regard these things unsympathetically. But if it made allowance for feeling, we would discover that it is the friend whom the sun-god takes with him on his chariot, as shown in the monuments. It is the representation of a friendship between two men which is simply the outer reflection of an inner fact: it reveals our relationship to that inner friend of the soul into whom Nature herself would like to change us – that other person who we also are and yet can never attain to completely. We are that pair of Dioscuri, one of whom is mortal and the other immortal, and who, though always together, can never be made completely one. The transformation processes strive to approximate them to one another, but our consciousness is aware of resistances, because the other person seems strange and uncanny, and because we cannot get accustomed to the idea that we are not absolute master in our own house. We should prefer to be always “I” and nothing else. But we are confronted with that inner friend or foe, and whether he is our friend or foe depends on ourselves.

You need not be insane to hear his voice. On the contrary, it is the simplest and most natural thing imaginable. For instance, you can ask yourself a question to which “he” gives answer. The discussion is then carried on as in any other conversation. You can describe it as mere “associating” or “talking to oneself”, or as a “meditation” in the sense used by the old alchemists, who referred to their interlocutor as aliquem alium internum, “a certain other one, within” This form of colloquy with the friend of the soul was even admitted by Ignatius Loyola into the technique of his Exercitia spiritualia, but with the limiting condition that only the person meditating is allowed to speak, whereas the inner responses are passed over as being merely human and therefore to be repudiated. … But a real colloquy becomes possible only when the ego acknowledges the existence of a partner to the discussion…. (p. 132)
[It is about transformation] “It is my own transformation – not a personal transformation, but the transformation of what is mortal in me into what is immortal. It shakes off the mortal husk that I am and wakens to a life of its own; it mounts the sun-barge and may take me with it”. (~ C.G. Jung, “Concerning Rebirth”, The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious, C.W. volume 9i. Page 134)

Interesting is it not?


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Submitted by Bob Johnston on May 13, 2008 - 8:06am.

Hi Anthony, thank you for your stimulating blog. As I read it I was reminded of portions of a blog I published in 2006: http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/2961.

Before sharing those portions, however, here's a caveat which I give to participants at the outset of my workshops and university courses: Keep in mind that all the ideas, concepts, and processes I present are my personal "working hypotheses" which you may want to test for yourself, i.e. options you may want to consider, experiment with, then cast aside, for I am not here to sell you on any of them, just expand your awareness that such options, complete with their caveats, exist. And, by the way, since they are working hypotheses I may well change tomorrow what you see today, should new scientific findings and/or intuitions tested in the laboratory of my everyday life indicate change. That caveat also applies here.

After many years of using Jungian and Assagioiian concepts of individuation and wrestling with my own identity (ego) issues, I have come to see the viability of defining ego as whatever an individual identifies with, whether it be clear timeless awareness or temporal forms, such as body-image, feelings, thoughts, values, beliefs, attitudes, intentions, motives, methods, behaviors, possessions, or whatever. In other words, in contradistinction to some of the alleged "great masters" and their view that ego is, in effect, evil I have come to the realization that there are healthy egos (identities) and unhealthy egos.

Having said that, it is clear to me that, all said and done, identity, or ego, can be summed up in two kinds: One, an unhealthy ego stemming from an identification with temporal images, such as one’s body, socio-economic status, occupation, etc.; and Two, a healthy ego derived from the ultimate mystical experience of realizing oneness with transparent infinite timeless awareness, synonyms for which could be the Source, the All, Cosmic Consciousness, or some other non-anthropomorphic intuition.

Some ancient and contemporary spiritual teachers have described their ideal as surrendering, even destroying, one’s identity or ego to achieve oneness with their version of a divine being.

Back in the early 70s I meditated full time for three days on surrendering myself completely to infinite timeless awareness. But infinite timeless awareness (I now hypothesize is our timeless Source) repeatedly responded, “I accept you as one with me but who will manage you, an immortal soul? Just as I do not want to micromanage the choices of trillions of souls for them, I do not want to micromanage your soul for you. In our interdependent participative life together in our state of conscious oneness you are delegated the responsibility for making your own decisions. Always with you, my representative OmniMind (OM) will serve as your coconscious consultant, but it is your responsibility to manage your soul’s intentions, thoughts, intuitions, feelings, sensations, and memories, both in this incarnation and life between lives."

I finally got the message, rose from my three-day meditation on surrender and proceeded to develop an integral nature-based philosophy on which I would manage my life with my coconscious consultant OmniMind (OM for short). From that experience evolved My Ten Commitments (alternative to the ten commandments) as shown on the Declaration Page of this website: http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/1172.

My experience taught me that even if identified as one with the infinite, transparent, timeless aware ‘ocean’ of the Source of all, I am not God (as some have proclaimed) but a microcosm interdependent with our all-pervading Source, the Macrocosm. In other words, in either state of conscious awareness – temporal or eternal -- one has an identity (ego), they are simply different kinds.

The question then becomes: Do I want the kind that says I am a separate temporal ego involuntarily conditioned by my family and culture to believe, value, and behave in a certain way; or do I want an interdependent immortal ego which, as a constituent of the all-pervading Source, has been granted the freedom and responsibility for co-managing my temporal ego with the freest range of existentially available options.

So which is it? An independent ego or an interdependent ego. I believe the answer rests with each of us. I opted for the interdependent ego.

The question then became, how can I most effectively and efficiently liberate myself from a temporal ego with all its attachments, identifications, habits, and addictions to a timeless aware identity which brings oneness with timeless awareness (albeit interdependent oneness), healing, peace, and freedom of mind and spirit?

When I first started this exploration back in the early 60s I found there are a number of ‘tools’ for exploration, including, meditation, yoga, biofeedback, dreamwork, and psychosynthesis, among others. Later, I designed and developed various blends and innovations under the labels: intensive integral self-management workshops, affirmational meditation, integrally healthful aging, integral memory scripting, and various combinations and blends thereof.

For me, a blend of all those, but using Roberto Assagioli’s concept of psychosynthesis as the core process, has been the most useful. Paraphrased in my own words, Assagioli’s basic concept says: whatever one identifies with dominates and manages her or him. Whatever one disidentifies with, he or she can transcend and learn to manage.

To illustrate, this process is expressed in the following sample affirmational meditation guide for realizing oneness with our timeless aware Source, hence, interdependent immortal soul.

INTRODUCTION
You may want to first commit this affirmational meditation to memory, or record it in your own voice on audio tape. Find a quiet place free from distractions, and repeat to yourself or listen to your personalized tape of the affirmation as follows:

1) As a sparkling window-glass-clear immortal soul, I am one with the infinite, all-pervading, pure, clear, healing, peaceful, free, timeless aware Source of all consciousness.

2) I am not any temporal thought, value, belief, motive, intention, attitude, method, behavior, or possession; however, all my temporal thoughts, values, beliefs, motives, intentions, attitudes, methods, behaviors, and possessions are included and available for my selection and use in my repertoire of options.
3) As a pure, clear, conscious center of the infinite, timeless aware Source of all consciousness, I am interdependently but seamlessly one with timeless awareness.

4) As such, I am, together with the timeless aware Source of all options, able to perceive with my senses, and/or intuitionally, the freest existentially available repertoire of choices for every situation.

5) Together, the timeless aware Source and I view our choices, consider their pros and cons, and may co-create additional choices, adding them to our repertoire as needed.

6) Together, the timeless aware Source and I freely choose the options or combination of options which are most likely to create mutual healthful results between us and other parties and our ecosystem.

7) Together, the timeless aware Source and I receive and contemplate the feedback which may come through person to person(s) communications – aurally, visually, in writing, through feelings, dreams, body sensations, or intuitions, or some combination of all those.

8) Together with our Source, as desired, one can start this whole process all over again from the top . . .

Note: There comes a point when probably you will no longer need to read or listen to the affirmation. You can determine when that point is by just asking yourself, Who am I?

If your inner voice answers spontaneously without coaching, “You are one with the transparent, infinite, timeless aware Source of all, your inner ’place’ of co-creative self-managing; you are not any temporal attachment, identification, addiction, or habit." You need not repeat the affirmation except as you feel the need.

I have a chart which overviews a comparison of the characteristics of the interdependent timeless aware ego with the characteristics of an ego identified with temporal images – attachments, identifications, and addictions. If interested in a copy feel free to contact me at omnimind@admin.umass.edu.

Yours with empathy and trust in evidence-based integral natural science and our omnipresent, timeless, aware, caring, mysterious Source of all consciousness and health,

Bob

Submitted by Lawrence Carson on May 12, 2008 - 4:02pm.

Your beliefs - which were directing your thoughts and thus your post (I quote them above) "This “other being” is the other person in ourselves – that larger and greater personality maturing within us ..."

May mislead you and your readers ... just a tad (unless it doesn't :-))

One may infer from your words that the "other being" is some other person in ourselves. Well in my personal experience ... it is the earthly Larry that is "within" the "other being" that is not limited to time-space restrictions. (size) and that although "we" :-) are both evolving ... it is the little earth Larry that is going through the experiential laboratory of life while my MUCH LARGER COUNTER PART Yrral Nosrac ... is taking his evolutionary lessons vicariously.

Sylvia Browne - and others I might add - is of the persuasion that some of us down here are only 30- 40 of who and what we really are with another 30 - 40 of us being some other person (here on earth or elsewhere) while the remaining 40-20% of our total essences remaining "Home" (up there) keeping watch over the both of mes. My mother always said she needed eyes in the back of her head and a twin sister to watch over her adored child .. me. :-)

You may or may not have read my post last week on Jungian beliefs that they (beliefs or archetypes) are living collective energy systems. Plato and many others were also graduates from the that same School of Pathos Delirium.

The One Single Universal Question ... & Carl Jung's Wierd Mind

So be very, very careful ... there are a lot of sick and paranoid beliefs inside me that still control my posts to this Blog. Be careful what you believe ... in what both ... and others say. :-)

Who knows ... they may be out to covertly really mess over your mind as they already have mine. :-)

Always love your posts

Larry Carson ... Yrral Nosrac ... and who knows else?

Submitted by Anthony Peake on May 13, 2008 - 12:43am.

Thanks for your swift response. I suspect that from your description of your subjective experiences that you are very aware of this 'other being' that shares your life. It may be of interest to you that on my blogsite there are at least ten individuals who communicate on the blog who are this 'other being'. Indeed next week I am travelling to meet a young man who is totally dual and both 'personalities' work together.

In order to really understand where I am coming from with this theory I suggest that you read the article I had published in The Journal of Near-Death Studies. This can be downloaded for free from my website. Indeed I would like to be able to attach this to a posting on this site so that as many people as wish to can download it. Do you know if this is possible?

Best Wishes

Tony

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Submitted by Lawrence Carson on May 13, 2008 - 5:21pm.

Thanks for the feedback.

To answer your first question I suppose you could do a cut and paste to this blog. If your article is too long I suppose you could cut and paste it here in Parts so as to not run into word limit issues ... but I personally think it just best to put your URL in as you did.

Second issue. On your site you say (as most ((almost all of them in fact)) researchers do)

"Can there ever be a rationally satisfying and scientifically based explanation as to what happens to consciousness at the point of death?"

For those that have experienced the farther most outer limits of mans travels within the Zero Point Field they will generally refer to "Awareness" before they will refer to "Consciousness" for the the latter can not be if the former is not up and running. :-) Just a micro piece of minutia you may wish to note ... and i am one of those nit picky guys ... on occasion and tonight I guess is one of those nights. :-)

The NDE and OBE are now getting to be old hat. What is new and coming into vogue is hypnotic regression and progression. There are quite a number of docs in the psy industry that are now doing that ... writing books on it ... and doing a lot of great archetype release therapy.

The mind is limitless ... the awareness is most fascinating ... but the conscious mind (Latin < with + knowing) is really a very slow navigational instrument. R E A L L Y S L O W !

Catch Ya Next Time and keep up the great work. The shift is upon us all ... its now time to realize we have all caught the wave.

Surfs Up ... so call in sick.

Yrral Nosrac

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